The
Truth in Print Vol. 28 Issue 2, Mar. 2022
A
Publication of the Valley church of Christ,
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A New Story – But Same Old Myth (I Tim.
1:3-4) --- i.e., Cain’s wife belonged to another people not descended from Adam
and Eve
Years ago I received a response to a reply I posted online titled
“Questions On Witchcraft.” She wanted me to know where she thought she came
from. She stated that she belonged with those whom she called the “Other
People.” Here is her reply as it came --- you should be able to catch what she’s
aiming at:
in reference to the directory of articles
Specifically the
one on witchcraft. It was quoted Exodus 22:18-20, “Thou shalt not suffer a
witch to live." It has come to the attention of many throughout the years
that words have been mistranslated from the original texts of the Bible, this
verse being one of them, the "witch" in reference was not to a group
of people practicing the old ways, it is in reference to a group of people who
worship satan. It was stated "practitioners of
the occult have Satan as the source of their information not God" Satan is
a Christian ideal, not ours. We are the "Other People"..allow
me to quote from an article
"http://216.32.180.250:80/cgibin/linkrd?_lang=EN&lah=36459d24cc1866138a7033e43e465bd6&lat=995557974&hm___action=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ecaw%2eorg%2farticles%2fotherpeople%2ehtml"
Gen 4:16 Cain left the
presence of Yahweh and settled in the land of Nod, east of Eden. We can assume
that the phrase "left the presence of Yahweh" implies that Yahweh is
a local deity, and not omnipresent. Now Eden, according to Gen. 2:14-15, was
situated at the source of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, apparently right
where Lake Van is now, in Turkey. "East of Eden," therefore, would
probably be along the shores of the Caspian Sea, right in the Indo-European
heartland. Cain settled in there, among the people of Nod, and married one of
the women of that country. Here, for the first time, is specifically mentioned
the "other people" who are not of the lineage of Adam and Eve. I.e.,
the Pagans." and back on the mistranslation bit, here's another verse that
when the proper word is used, makes everything change..quoted
from the same article "Genesis 1:26 - The [Elohim] said, "Let us make
humanity in our own image, in the likeness of ourselves, and let them be
masters of the fish of the sea, the birds of heaven, the cattle, all the wild
beasts and all the reptiles that crawl upon the earth." Elohim is a plural
word, including male and female, and should properly be translated "Gods"
or "Pantheon." I've not written this to start an arguement,
nor am I looking for clarification on any bible quote. I am a preachers daughter, I am well versed in Biblical sense, and
the various versions of the book. I have written this to right misconceptions.
We, the other people, are peaceful, and nature-conscious.
If we were truly evil, Yahweh would not have permitted the 'other people' to
live correct? If the Other People didn't exsist then
by all scientific knowledge the bloodlines from Adam and Eve would have been so
crossed from inbreeding that life as we know it would not have exsisted. Have a Blessed Day..
Man, what a tale!
--- and just think, her “other people” saved humanity. She thinks we should all
be grateful. She knows nothing about the bloodlines from Adam and Eve at the
beginning of the human race. How would she know for
she wasn’t around? Gen. 4:16-17 does not tell when Cain married. Chapter 4 does
give the descendants of Cain (Gen 4:17-24). In Gen. 5:4 after telling the birth
of Seth to Adam and Eve, it says Adam lived 800 years after the birth of Seth
“and he had other sons and daughters” (Gen 5:4) --- “daughters” would be a
source of wives in the beginning. Cain either married one of his sisters, or
one his nieces or on down the line. There was “time for this” because people
lived hundreds of years –- mighty good genes there! Gen. 3:20 tells us “Eve” is
the mother of all living. To believe the Bible is to believe she is. Adam is
“the first man” (I Cor 15:45).
In Gen. 1:1 “God”
is the same word as in Gen. 1:26 --- and God is the creator of heaven and
earth. Is that a local deity? She knows so much about God that she has both
male and female in the Godhead. Watch that “nature-consciousness” thing
whenever you hear it – understand that God created nature -- nature is not God! She needs to remember that it was God
who did not permit the others besides Noah, his wife, his three sons and their
wives to live. There’s the importance of Noah and his family – mankind
continued with them alone – they served God at the time of the Flood (Gen.
6-9).
Next up is a new
story to tell --- but with the same old evolution line. Evolution is the theory
that a biological human can have common ancestry with apes. Again, you will see
that Cain’s wife was supposedly a biological human “outside of Adam and Eve’s
family” --- supposedly shown by these scriptures:
Gen 4:16 And Cain
went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the
east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain
knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded
a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son,
Enoch.
What have you just
read in Gen 4:16-17? You’ve read about the beginning of the family of the
Cainites. Cain went out and dwelt in the land of Nod said to be on the east of
Eden – there it says Cain’s wife bore Enoch. The text assumes (it is
self-evident) that she was a daughter of Adam (Gen 1:28 “be fruitful and
multiply) --- if not a daughter of Adam and Eve then one of the descendants on
down the line. We see Cain’s family multiplying (Gen. 4:18-26). The marriage of brothers and sisters was
inevitable in the case of the children of the first men, since the human race was actually to descend from a single pair
--- this is long before the Law of Moses and its prohibition in Lev 18:9.
“CHRISTIANITY Published January 2
“Christians point to genetics breakthroughs to show Adam
and Eve are not incompatible with evolution
“EVOLUTIONARY SCIENCE IS MAKING SPACE FOR ADAM AND EVE,
CHRISTIAN SCIENTISTS SAY
“BY TYLER O'NEIL | FOX NEWS
“Many Christians have rejected
the scientific theory of evolution in part because they think it rules out the
existence of a historical Adam and Eve. Yet some scientists and theologians
argue that recent breakthroughs in genetics make a historical Adam and Eve
compatible with evolution, and that this development may help bridge what many
see as a conflict between faith and science.
"For over 160 years, the
societal conflict over evolution has been deep and stubborn. But now, in a
surprise twist, evolutionary science is making space for Adam and Eve," S.
Joshua Swamidass, an associate professor at the
Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis, Missouri, told Fox News
Digital. "It turns out that the theological questions are about
genealogical ancestry, not genetics. In this paradigm shift, we are finding a
better way forward, a better story to tell."
Blood is
mentioned in the New Testament as “the substantial basis of the individual
life” (Acts 17:26).
Act
17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for
to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before
appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Act 17:27 That they
should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though
he be not far from every one of us:
Here it refers to
the human and not to animal blood as in Lev. 17:11 “For the life of the flesh
is in the blood." Genealogical ancestry refers to descent from an ancestor
or ancestors; genetics -- biology that deals with heredity i.e.
the genetic transmission of traits from parent to offspring. Blood types are
hereditary – A, B, O for example. Animal blood will be rejected if given to a
human. I believe someone tried that back in the 1600s and it didn’t work out
well for the recipients.
In his book "The
Genealogical Adam and Eve: The Surprising Science of Universal Ancestry," Swamidass argues that genetics and evolutionary theory do
not conflict with the existence of Adam and Eve, universal ancestors of all
humans whom Jesus died to save.
GENETIC ‘ADAM’ AND ‘EVE’
UNCOVERED
Modern genetics only captures
a small sliver of the story of human ancestry, Swamidass
writes. While your parents are both 100 percent your parents, you only get
roughly 50 percent of your DNA from each of them, and only about 25 percent of
your DNA from your grandparents. As you go farther back, you have more
genealogical ancestors who each contribute less and less to your DNA.
While universal genetic
ancestors are rare, universal genealogical ancestors are surprisingly common,
the author noted. Each individual has four
grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so on, but population size in past
generations tends to get smaller, so overlap is inevitable. He argues that by 1
A.D., every person on Earth was descended from Adam and Eve.
Swamidass'
model of a Genealogical Adam and Eve (GAE) claims that biological humans may
still share a common ancestor with apes according to the theory of evolution,
but God could have created Adam and Eve from the dust and a rib, without
parents, and these two became the ancestors of all humans by 1 A.D. Swamidass claims that Genesis appears to require biological
humans outside of Adam and Eve's family line because after Cain murders Abel
and leaves his parents, he fears that he will be killed, he acquires a wife,
and he builds a city.
So, here again is
the myth that Genesis requires biological humans outside of Adam and Eve’s
family line! One can simply make the same prior points made around the fact the
Bible does not tell when Cain married, etc.
Here again is the
importance Eve being the mother of all living. Gen 3:20 “And Adam called his
wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.”
Compare some
definitions and explanations you can find on Eve: “Eve means ‘life’ --- the
continuance and life of humanity were guaranteed through the woman.” From TCWSD
[Eve, H2332 ḥawwāh]: A proper noun
designating Eve. The name of the first woman created by the Lord God. Adam gave
her the name Eve, meaning "living, making alive" (Gen_3:20). She was
the wife of Adam (Gen_4:1). In Gen_2:23, she was designated as a woman (’iššāh [H802]), a female being apart from
the male being, Adam, both sharing common humanity. As her name indicates, she
then gave birth to the human race (Gen_4:1-2).
“Was” in the Hebrew means: H1961 hāyāh:
A verb meaning to exist, to be, to become, to happen, to come to pass, to be
done. As her name indicates, she then gave birth to the human
race (Gen_4:1-2).
“Adam” H121 ’āḏām: The
proper noun designating Adam --- 1Co 15:45 And so it is written, "THE
FIRST MAN ADAM BECAME A LIVING BEING."
So, Adam is the
first man; Eve is the first woman and mother of all living! If you believe the
Bible you believe this. Evolution teaches we share common ancestors with apes.
"Most readers of Genesis
understood Adam and Eve to be (1) ancestors of us all, and (2) miraculously
created without parents of their own," Swamidass
told Fox News Digital. "In contrast, evolution teaches that (3) we share
common ancestors with apes, and (4) we arise from a large population, not a
single couple. This conflict of fact only seemed solvable by revising
foundational Christian theological beliefs, or by rejecting evolution."
So, evolution is
added to what the Bible says about mankind.
"But now, clearing up some
big scientific understandings, we know that all four of these things can be
true at the same time," Swamidass said.
"Even if Adam and Eve lived as recently as just 6,000 years ago, they
would be the genealogical ancestors of everyone across the globe by AD 1. They
could even have been created de novo, from the dust and a rib. Of course, at
the same time, we would also descend from people outside the Garden, others
whom God created by a providentially governed process of evolution. “
What’s that old
saying? --- Just keep repeating and people will believe! I can’t help but
think, personally, that they have discovered something
and they really don’t know what to do with it.
The Bible says
Adam and Eve existed the 6th day of creation (Gen. 1:27).
William Lane Craig, a
Christian philosophy professor at Houston Baptist University and Biola
University's Talbot School of Theology, published the book "In Quest of
the Historical Adam: A Biblical and Scientific Exploration" in September.
His book echoes Swamidass' arguments – although he
places Adam and Eve further back in history.
Well, the Bible
places them at the beginning of the history of mankind. Again, where does the
Bible put Adam and Eve? On the sixth day of creation (Gen 1:27).
A basic objection
when accepting the Bible is pointed out in the article itself.
Nathan Lents, a secular
professor of biology at John Jay College, told Fox News Digital that recent
developments have made Adam and Eve more plausible.
"I would not say that
there is any evidence, historical or scientific, in favor of the existence of
Adam and Eve, as they are presented in the Bible," Lents said.
"However, there have been developments in our understanding of ancestry
and genetics that allow for the possibility of universal ancestors of the
entire human population in the surprisingly recent past."
He noted that "there are
important caveats" about the possibility of universal ancestors, such as
isolated populations, and about the impact of the GAE model – it does not
involve "sole progenitorship of the human race from just two people."
That is most
certainly a basic objection when accepting the Bible! And I keep thinking
they’ve discovered something, and they really don’t know what to do with it.
Adam and Eve didn’t just plop in at some place along the
way!
Dr. Nathaniel Jeanson, a Christian biologist with the young-earth
creationist organization Answers in Genesis, told Fox News Digital that Swamidass' "definition of Adam and eve is almost
unrecognizable from a Young Earth perspective; it’s essentially the
mainstream model with an undetectable supernaturally created pair inserted at
some point."
A myth with the same old line on Cain’s wife!
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