The Truth in Print Vol. 24 Issue 12, Jan. 2018

A Publication of the Valley church of Christ,

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A Review of “‘Love Wins’ at same-sex conference” by Bobby Ross Jr.

 

 

   The above title appeared in the mailed “The Christian Chronicle” Vol. 75, No. 11, Nov. 2018. Its alternate title is “How to keep LGBTQ people from becoming ‘spiritual orphans’” by Bobby Ross Jr.  - “E3 Conference at Highland Oaks Church of Christ, Dallas TX.”

 

   “Our” young people should be able to see the vast differences in a sound church of Christ and unsound churches calling themselves churches of Christ.

 

 

Consider these introductory headings and remarks:

 

PARENTS OF LGBTQ children and leaders of Churches of Christ tackle faith and sexuality.

 

How to keep LGBTQ people from becoming ‘spiritual orphans’

 

DALLAS — Carrie Underwood’s “Love Wins” video played on the big screens as the E3 Conference opened at the Highland Oaks Church of Christ.

 

“I believe you and me are sisters and brothers. And I believe we’re made to be here for each other,” Underwood sings in the country hit. “And we’ll never fall if we walk hand in hand, put a world that seems broken together again. Yeah, I believe, in the end love wins.”

 

 

Scripturally Tackling Faith and Sexuality

 

   Do you really think playing Carrie Underwood’s “Love Wins” video is tackling faith and sexuality!

   The Scriptures teach you to expect that “not all” who hear the Gospel will obey:

Rom 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?"

 

Rom 10:17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

 

I Cor. 6:18 says concerning sexual immoralities, “Flee fornication.” Thayer’s Definition: “fornication” [G4202 porneia]: 1) illicit sexual intercourse, 1a) adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.

 

  So what do you tackle when you deal scripturally with sexual immoralities even if you might have a child involved?

 

 

Organized by “CenterPeace”

 

   Sally Gary is the founder and executive director of CenterPeace. “Helping parents of LGBTQ children and leaders of Churches of Christ ‘better understand and love unconditionally’ was the goal of the recent conference organized by CenterPeace. The Dallas-based ministry provides support for people who experience same-sex attraction.”

 

   “‘Nobody’s asking you to change what you believe,’ Sally Gary, CenterPeace’s founder and executive director, told the 350 attendees who came from across the United States and Canada. ‘Nobody’s asking you to change what you think about the morality of sexuality. But what we are going to have to change,’ she added, ‘is how we provide community for the entire body of Christ.’”

 

   The entire body of Christ — isn’t that about the same meaning given of “entire” that any human organization in town would give of the “entire body of Christ”? Look up the word “community” and you’ll find as a definition: “sharing, participation and fellowship.” A sound church would not allow such an organization to conjoin with its work to begin with.

 

  “E3 aims to “equip, empower and encourage” Christians to engage in more thoughtful dialogue about faith and sexuality.”

 

  Dialogue is defined in the American Heritage Dictionary “5. An exchange of ideas or opinions.” Our duty is to go to God’s Word rather than opinion i.e. man’s ideas or thoughts (Rom. 10:17). In Is. 55:7-9 God’s thoughts are higher than man’s and must prevail. WHAT NEEDS BE FORSAKEN IS YOUR OWN THOUGHTS (OPINIONS). The thing about “dialogue” with those espousing error is it allows error to get its foot in the door!

 

 

Man’s Sinful Sexual Arrangements:

 

1. Sex before marriage (I Cor. 6:18).

 

2. Fornicators and adulterers (Heb. 13:4).

 

3. Homosexuality and lesbianism (Rom. 1:26-27).

 

4. Planning a child outside of marriage as the result of fornication (Gen. 1:28, 2:23-24, 4:1). 

 

 

Statistics Often Display a Lack of Faith in God’s Word (Rom. 10:17)

 

   “At a time when national polling shows younger Christians increasingly open to gay marriage (47 percent of evangelicals born after 1964 favored it in a Pew Research Center survey, compared with 26 percent of older evangelicals), the conference brought together people of faith with differing beliefs.”

 

   Statistics are lacking in presenting the “scriptural truth” about the church of Christ, as well as who and what a true Christian is. And do you suppose that the “center” part of CenterPeace is the old compromising offer of let’s agree to disagree? And isn’t providing “community” really a push for acceptance and fellowship?

 

 

Fellowship Is Based Upon Keeping the Word (Eph. 5:11)

 

   What the Scriptures teach on fellowship is not peace by occupying a “middle position” of compromise with error. I Jo. 1:6-7 is clear. We can’t have fellowship with Christ and walk in darkness; if we say we have fellowship with Him and walk in darkness we are liars and not practicing the truth; if we walk in the light we have fellowship with one another.

 

   This love wins. To love the children of God is when we love God first and keep His commandments (I Jo. 5:2, 3). If we say we love God and do not keep His commandments we are liars and without the truth (I Jo. 2:3-4). That’s why Paul told the church at Corinth to withdraw from the sexually immoral person that he might be repent and be saved (read I Cor. 5:1-2, 5, 11, 13; 6:9-10).

 

  Isn’t “center” peace really the kind of “peace” that Jeremiah warned about? Jer 6:14 They have also healed the hurt of My people slightly, Saying, 'Peace, peace!' When there is no peace. Jer 6:15 Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? No! They were not at all ashamed; Nor did they know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; At the time I punish them, They shall be cast down," says the LORD.

 

 

A Participant’s “I am not an argument to be won.”

 

   This came from Justin Lee who is said to be of a Baptist background and the author of “Torn: Rescuing the Gospel from the Gays-vs.-Christians Debate.” “He told attendees that friends can challenge his view that God blesses same-sex marriages.” “‘But if that’s all we ever talk about … that doesn’t make me feel like your friend. It doesn’t feel like you love me. It feels like you want to win an argument,’ said Lee.” “‘I am not an argument to be won. I am not a project,’ he added. I am a person.’”

 

   Did the Corinthian Christians considered Paul as their friend? The Corinthians heard, believed and were baptized into Christ for the remission of their sins (Acts 18:8, 2:38).  In I Cor. 6:11 some of them had (in the past prior to their baptisms) practiced sexual immoralities including homosexuality. They are reminded that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God (I Cor. 6:9-10). Paul told them should he come and find some practicing such “I shall not find you such as I wish, and that I shall be found by you such as you do not wish” (I Cor. 6:20-21). He plainly states such can be repented of, and some needed to repent, and to find such practiced and not yet repented of by the time he comes will cause grief over their sinful conduct (I Cor. 6:21). Was he their friend?

 

  The “weapons of warfare” we use, Paul says, are designed to cast down imaginations (human reasoning, thoughts held in the mind, arguments) brought to bear against the knowledge of God, and to bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. He ends this with being ready to punish those who did not repent (2 Cor. 10:4-6; 13:2, 10).

 

   There is an argument to be won here. It is repent and be baptized for the remission of your sins, and then live faithfully without going back to immoralities!

 

 

Other Participants:

 

   Don McLaughlin minister, the North Atlantic Church of Christ in Georgia is quoted: “Too many LGBTQ people, McLaughlin said, get the message from Christians that ‘this family must no longer be for me, and that makes them orphans.’”

 

   For members of the church at Corinth practicing such they must repent and stop practicing such. If one continues in immorality they must be withdrawn from and not associated with to bring them to repentance (I Cor. 5:1-5, 9-11; cf. 2 Th. 3:6, 14).

 

Parents Speak of Their Own Children “Identifying”

 

   One participant is quoted as saying that her daughter who identifies as lesbian left the church because “She just doesn’t feel comfortable coming on Sunday and facing people who are judging her.”

 

   We are told to judge righteous judgment (Jo. 7:24). The Lord said men love darkness rather than light, because their deeds are evil. They don’t come to the light lest their deeds be reproved (Jo. 3:19-20). What is learned from Paul’s instruction to Corinth? I Cor. 5:1-7, 12-13 speaks of the church (collectively as a church) judging and withdrawing fellowship from one continuing in sexual immorality. Individually they were not to associate with such (I Cor. 5:10 -11). Exceptions weren’t made for members of one’s family.

 

   Another participant explains that she grew up believing homosexuality was a sin. She says “Her world was rocked, however, when her son ...now 20, informed his parents he was gay. ‘Mom, being gay is as much a part of me as the color of my eyes, so I know it can’t be a sin or God wouldn’t have made me that way,’ he said.”

 

   “When you are raised in and attend Churches of Christ or other traditionalist churches, …When your child comes out as gay or LGBT, that is the last place you feel you can go.” “‘The fear of shame and rejection is so overwhelming,’ she added.” “And that isn’t what church should look like. No one has been talking about same-sex attractions within the church, so when you face that with your precious child, or as an individual, you feel incredibly isolated and alone.”

 

   This son said he knows it is not a sin but I Cor. 6:9 says it is sin, and those practicing such will not inherit the kingdom of God. You can’t “comfort” scripturally a parent who loves their child more than Christ and His word (Matt. 10:37-38). Read Heb. 10:24-25; I Th. 5:11, 14 and see that there is always comfort for those who do love His word and worship. 

 

 

The Dr. Who Is Still Working Through It

 

   “Another attendee, Adams Mearse, former youth minister for the Naperville Church of Christ in Illinois, wrote his doctoral dissertation on teaching sexuality in biblical and healthy ways.

 

   ‘I’m still working through it. I really am,’ he said of his Bible study on sexuality. ‘I wish I would come to a more definite conclusion because it would take a lot of stress off my life and brain. But I’m still working through it, and it’s a real and legitimate challenge.’”

 

   I Cor. chapters 5 and 6 are just not that hard to understand, even for someone who has a doctorate degree. Culture and the world’s wisdom often hold some back from the truth.

 

 

CenterPeace’s Director “Loves God, Likes Girls”

 

    What a finale, and the author saved it to the very last.

 

   “CenterPeace’s Gary is the author of the memoir “Loves God, Likes Girls.” She often tells audiences about the shame and humiliation she felt as a girl experiencing same-sex attraction while growing up in the Tenth and Broad Church of Christ in Wichita Falls, Texas.

 

   Gary said Christians must learn to love people and invite them to the table, regardless of whether they are divorced and remarried or involved in a same-sex relationship.”

 

   “‘You can hold to those traditional sexual ethics,’ said Gary, who completed her final chemotherapy treatment in May after a year-long battle with breast cancer. ‘You don’t have to change those to love people well and include those people in fellowship.’”

 

   Apply what John says is necessary for fellowship (I Jo. 1:6-7) and what he says scriptural love is (I Jo. 2:4, 5:1). Do not leave out Paul’s teaching on withdrawal (I Cor. 5; 2 Th. 3:6, 14). Remember who will not inherit the kingdom of God (I Cor. 6:9). Compare the lesson on toleration in the church in Thyatira (Rev. 2:20-23). 

 

 “You can embrace people in a way that allows them to use the gifts which God has given them and further the kingdom without approving everything in their lives.”

 

   Rom 1:18 says “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.” What does Rom. 1:26-27 say? Rom. 1:32 says “Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

What does Rom. 1:26-27 say? Rom. 1:32 says “Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

 

 

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